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	<title>Comments on: Singularity Sky by Charles Stross</title>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
		<link>http://www.camturner.com/2006/10/singularity-sky-by-charles-stross/#comment-11539</link>
		<dc:creator>Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

That&#039;s an excellent point. I&#039;m all for a few big ideas, just not dozens that are all very thinly explored.

For the record, and as I alluded to in the review, my favourite SciFi is when an author creates a whole universe full of ideas, and explores them over the course of 3-4 books. For example:

1. Asimov&#039;s Foundation and Robot series
2. Scalzi&#039;s Old Man&#039;s War Universe
3. Campbell&#039;s Lost Fleet
4. Heinlein&#039;s various Future History time lines
Etc.

Each book in those series explores 3-5 different major ideas in depth and alludes to half a dozen more &#039;mysterious&#039; ideas that are developed in later works in the same imaginary places/spaces.

However, all have a strong story about people in each book. This is fiction after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an excellent point. I&#8217;m all for a few big ideas, just not dozens that are all very thinly explored.</p>
<p>For the record, and as I alluded to in the review, my favourite SciFi is when an author creates a whole universe full of ideas, and explores them over the course of 3-4 books. For example:</p>
<p>1. Asimov&#8217;s Foundation and Robot series<br />
2. Scalzi&#8217;s Old Man&#8217;s War Universe<br />
3. Campbell&#8217;s Lost Fleet<br />
4. Heinlein&#8217;s various Future History time lines<br />
Etc.</p>
<p>Each book in those series explores 3-5 different major ideas in depth and alludes to half a dozen more &#8216;mysterious&#8217; ideas that are developed in later works in the same imaginary places/spaces.</p>
<p>However, all have a strong story about people in each book. This is fiction after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.camturner.com/2006/10/singularity-sky-by-charles-stross/#comment-11538</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was considering buying this book when I came across this review.  Thank you Cam for sharing your thoughts and engaging your readers.

You seem to suggest you prefer sci-fi that takes one or two big ideas and explores them within the context of a well written story.  That sort of thing drives me nuts, and I often believe indicates a poverty of thought on the author&#039;s part.  From an ideas perspective, I believe all the fertile ground is found in the intersection and interaction of a multitude of a new ideas as they crop up.  Consider the dozens of technologies developed during WWII, and how they intersected in dozens of ways that couldn&#039;t be forseen.  Human history rarely follows a linear progression of ideas, and I&#039;m delighted when authors like Stross are bold and imaginative enough to string together a dozen ideas and make a constellation out of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was considering buying this book when I came across this review.  Thank you Cam for sharing your thoughts and engaging your readers.</p>
<p>You seem to suggest you prefer sci-fi that takes one or two big ideas and explores them within the context of a well written story.  That sort of thing drives me nuts, and I often believe indicates a poverty of thought on the author&#8217;s part.  From an ideas perspective, I believe all the fertile ground is found in the intersection and interaction of a multitude of a new ideas as they crop up.  Consider the dozens of technologies developed during WWII, and how they intersected in dozens of ways that couldn&#8217;t be forseen.  Human history rarely follows a linear progression of ideas, and I&#8217;m delighted when authors like Stross are bold and imaginative enough to string together a dozen ideas and make a constellation out of them.</p>
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		<title>By: JImmy</title>
		<link>http://www.camturner.com/2006/10/singularity-sky-by-charles-stross/#comment-11537</link>
		<dc:creator>JImmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO Charles Stross is one of the most original sifi writers around.

The Atrocity Archives is incredible!

This book is great too (not quite as good as Atrocity Archives though ;-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO Charles Stross is one of the most original sifi writers around.</p>
<p>The Atrocity Archives is incredible!</p>
<p>This book is great too (not quite as good as Atrocity Archives though <img src='http://www.camturner.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m about 2/3 of the way through the book and I like it.  I like all the ideas and technologies he mentions--so I guess I&#039;m against you, too, Cam, but no worries--but more important, I like his narrative voice and humor.  There are frequently little jokes (some obscure) that make me chuckle. IMHO, Singularity Sky is a good example of the post-cyberpunk SF.

I discovered Stross in &quot;Rewired: the Post-Cyberpunk Anthology&quot; and it made me want to read more of this stuff.  So far I&#039;m glad I did.

Interestingly, I recently finished Forever War, so I note the similarities: time travel via &quot;folding&quot; or jumping, the unknowable alien culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about 2/3 of the way through the book and I like it.  I like all the ideas and technologies he mentions&#8211;so I guess I&#8217;m against you, too, Cam, but no worries&#8211;but more important, I like his narrative voice and humor.  There are frequently little jokes (some obscure) that make me chuckle. IMHO, Singularity Sky is a good example of the post-cyberpunk SF.</p>
<p>I discovered Stross in &#8220;Rewired: the Post-Cyberpunk Anthology&#8221; and it made me want to read more of this stuff.  So far I&#8217;m glad I did.</p>
<p>Interestingly, I recently finished Forever War, so I note the similarities: time travel via &#8220;folding&#8221; or jumping, the unknowable alien culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
		<link>http://www.camturner.com/2006/10/singularity-sky-by-charles-stross/#comment-11535</link>
		<dc:creator>Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, Yes. I always pick the story from my shelf I think I&#039;ll like best. Sometimes I&#039;m wrong, but you do have a great point :)

I also agree that the ideas are very original (as I stated in my review) but that as a SINGLE STORY it doesn&#039;t hold together as a story, just one big idea after another.  Which brings me back to my statement that &quot;Taken in pieces the ideas in this book might have made an excellent collection of short stories that all take place in the same universe.&quot;

The short format lends itself to less character development and more idea. It&#039;s a shame few current &quot;big name&quot; authors spend serious attention writing short fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, Yes. I always pick the story from my shelf I think I&#8217;ll like best. Sometimes I&#8217;m wrong, but you do have a great point <img src='http://www.camturner.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I also agree that the ideas are very original (as I stated in my review) but that as a SINGLE STORY it doesn&#8217;t hold together as a story, just one big idea after another.  Which brings me back to my statement that &#8220;Taken in pieces the ideas in this book might have made an excellent collection of short stories that all take place in the same universe.&#8221;</p>
<p>The short format lends itself to less character development and more idea. It&#8217;s a shame few current &#8220;big name&#8221; authors spend serious attention writing short fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t quite finished it yet (2/3 way done), but it&#039;s the most original thing I&#039;ve ever read thus far, and the new ideas are thoroughly entertaining; For me, the conundrum presented by all of them for the characters is just fine.

I do agree that the characters weren&#039;t particularly great and the romance was unnecessary; I&#039;ll forgive it just this once since the ideas more than make up for it.

And one last thing...
&quot;It’s only worth reading only if you can’t find anything better.&quot;

Isn&#039;t that true of ANYTHING? Why would you willingly sit down and read something if you knew you&#039;d enjoy reading &quot;X&quot; better? =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t quite finished it yet (2/3 way done), but it&#8217;s the most original thing I&#8217;ve ever read thus far, and the new ideas are thoroughly entertaining; For me, the conundrum presented by all of them for the characters is just fine.</p>
<p>I do agree that the characters weren&#8217;t particularly great and the romance was unnecessary; I&#8217;ll forgive it just this once since the ideas more than make up for it.</p>
<p>And one last thing&#8230;<br />
&#8220;It’s only worth reading only if you can’t find anything better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that true of ANYTHING? Why would you willingly sit down and read something if you knew you&#8217;d enjoy reading &#8220;X&#8221; better? =P</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think this is? A Democracy?!! NO! It&#039;s a dictatorship. You must all agree with my opinions or it&#039;s the airlock for you!

Just kidding.

I have no problem that you all disagree with me. Maybe I was in a bad mood when I read the book or maybe I was just tired.

Science Fiction certainly makes it&#039;s way into real life, maybe real life tainted my opinion of this book.

Who knows. What do other people think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think this is? A Democracy?!! NO! It&#8217;s a dictatorship. You must all agree with my opinions or it&#8217;s the airlock for you!</p>
<p>Just kidding.</p>
<p>I have no problem that you all disagree with me. Maybe I was in a bad mood when I read the book or maybe I was just tired.</p>
<p>Science Fiction certainly makes it&#8217;s way into real life, maybe real life tainted my opinion of this book.</p>
<p>Who knows. What do other people think?</p>
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		<title>By: CRConrad</title>
		<link>http://www.camturner.com/2006/10/singularity-sky-by-charles-stross/#comment-11532</link>
		<dc:creator>CRConrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JojO starts out by saying he agrees with both sides, but actually both the actual points he mentions -- &quot;I really liked the book&quot;, followed by &quot;but yes the romance was a bit unnecessary&quot; seem to be in favour of the pro-Stross side, the one that disagrees with Cam.

So that makes three to one against you, Cam...

And with me, it makes four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JojO starts out by saying he agrees with both sides, but actually both the actual points he mentions &#8212; &#8220;I really liked the book&#8221;, followed by &#8220;but yes the romance was a bit unnecessary&#8221; seem to be in favour of the pro-Stross side, the one that disagrees with Cam.</p>
<p>So that makes three to one against you, Cam&#8230;</p>
<p>And with me, it makes four.</p>
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		<title>By: JonO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm, i agree with both sides.  I really liked the book, but yes the romance was a bit unnecessary.  But in sci fi the romance is almost always unnecessary yet there it is.  I loved the mash-up of concepts, especially the Festival and will try out more Stross, although Iron SUnrise was not quite as good as this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm, i agree with both sides.  I really liked the book, but yes the romance was a bit unnecessary.  But in sci fi the romance is almost always unnecessary yet there it is.  I loved the mash-up of concepts, especially the Festival and will try out more Stross, although Iron SUnrise was not quite as good as this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay. So two to one against. That&#039;s cool. Anyone else? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. So two to one against. That&#8217;s cool. Anyone else? <img src='http://www.camturner.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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